Ceiling


Subject: Ceiling
From: Amit Patel (ninjapack@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Mar 11 2006 - 18:35:12 CST


A while back somebody mentioned they had a friend/family member who could seal our roofs for a cheap price. I still battle with debris falling from the ceiling when someone is on the roof. If someone has the contact info, i would appreciate it.
   
  amit - 711

nimish adhvaryu <nimishadhvaryu@yahoo.com> wrote:
  I do agree with what George has to say. We can't aimlessly hire a security guard without holding a meeting. Most of us live in this building because of the low assessments and many may prefer another means of heightened security besides a security guard. I think Tom's key guard idea seems reasonable but we all need to agree on this before proceeding. Also, the entrance area may not be large enough to facilitate a security guard. We may need to upgrade the front lobby for this, which essentially means added costs!! I know everyone is disturbed with this situation, but we really need to think about our options before making a decision.

Nimish

Georgeann Bosco wrote:

Before we go increasing assessments and hiring Barney Fife, let's have a
meeting to see what 1P suggests. I live in this building because I
cannot afford a "doorman," and I am pretty sure I am not alone.

Our unit was the first one hit, so I agree that some measures need to be
taken. Can we consult with the police? Can we dip into the Reserve for
the extra security, regardless of method chosen?

We already pay a king's ransom for no grass and dog-mess...I can't see
paying more.

Georgeann Bosco Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: vanguard-talk-bounce@venus.soci.niu.edu
[mailto:vanguard-talk-bounce@venus.soci.niu.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:28 PM
To: vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu
Subject: Re: Was there another breakin today?

> I don't know what security firm you're looking at, but it is no where
> near $100,000 to $150,000 a year...hell, if that's what we'd pay a
> security guard, I'll quit my job and do it today.

Damn, Tom!!! You beat me too it! Your estimates of $30K a year seem a
bit
low, but it's still in the reasonable range.

Just to re-interate your points:

> Additionally, a security guard in front, is a deterent to someone
> breaking into the lobby doors, which is apparently what happened last
> week (I don't know how they got in today.

Security on the door, while not fool-proof, does help reduce crime:

--a visible deterrent, making breaking in the front door more difficult
--a periodic walk-around for suspicious activity and listening for
alarms
--dialing 911 isn't trivial; it beats not dialing
--it can be linked to other forms of security (monitoring, etc)

Upgrading surveillance is also useful. A mulifaceted approach would be
best if we can do it fairly inexpensively. Cameras in stairwells might
not be all that effective, because they would have little deterent or
preventative impact, and would duplicate what's currently installed
(plus,
perhaps, another camera or two).

Jim

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