RE: 2008 Decking Replacement Project


Subject: RE: 2008 Decking Replacement Project
From: Kelly Cacioppo (kellymcacioppo@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 13 2008 - 15:29:12 CST


If anyone happens to be online right now... where can we get those christmas tree recycling bags??? was it home depot?
 
 
> To: vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu> Subject: Re: 2008 Decking Replacement Project> From: christian.a.lattimer@jpmchase.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:32:23 -0600> > From a logistics and liability perspective, it's best to do the project as > a whole by a licensed contractor. We've discussed many options over the > past year and for unilateral consistency, this is the best option for the > association.> > If we allow home owners to do their own installations, this will then > involve a multitude of contractors and individual unit inspections. If > there is ever a problem with a balcony installation, it becomes a virtual > night mare trying to keep track of all the parties involved to remediate > the issues. I'm sure you're aware of the balcony collapse that happened a > few years ago in Lincoln Park where several people were killed. Liability > is a huge issue with projects like this.> > I agree... it's just some treated lumber and a bunch of fasteners. To > most it seems like a small project and shouldn'
t cost much, but due to the > large scale of our building and our qualification as a "high rise", we are > bound to rules and regulations set forth by the city. If our building was > a two story single family home, things might be different.> > In regards to the nailers... the only way to tell if the nailers are still > good is to perform an inspection once all the decking has been removed. If > the nailers are in good shape there is no need for replacement. But if > you remove the decking and find the nailers are starting to show signs of > deterioration, then they must be replaced. This is something we'll leave > up to the professionals to determine.> > None of us are happy about the cost... and we're doing our best to deliver > the project on time and under budget.> > - Chris> > Christian A. Lattimer> J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. - It Architect & Consulting> 131 South Dearborn, Floor 6> Chicago, IL 60603> > Phone: 312-407-1333> Pager: 877-412-7720> Email: christian.a.lattimer@jpmchase.com> > > > > Mary Deskovi
ch <mdeskovich@yahoo.com> > Sent by: vanguard-talk-bounce@venus.soci.niu.edu> 01/11/2008 04:53 PM> Please respond to> vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu> > > To> vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu> cc> > Subject> Re: 2008 Decking Replacement Project> > > > > > > Has the option been offered to have the owner install the deck themselves > thus saving them the labor and the scaffolding costs? If supplied with > the specs, I can buy the lumber and fasteners, hire someone and allow them > to access the balcony through my unit and dispose of the waste myself. It > would be less than half the $900 quoted. Also, it doesn't appear that the > supports below the deck need replacement. After receiving your reply, I > checked the balcony above mine. There appears to be nothing wrong with > the wood that supports the deck. I assume that this is probably the case > with the vast majority of the decks.> > christian.a.lattimer@jpmchase.com wrote: The estimates we received from > several contractors ranged in price based > on the
 material we select for the project (composite decking vs. treated > lumber) and the scope of work involved. The cost will vary depending on > the material that is chosen. Please keep in mind the other associated > costs included in the price:> > - replacement of the decking nailers under the wood planks> - city of Chicago building permit> - licensed contractor with insurance> - scaffolding, swing stages, lifts> - sidewalk protection for pedestrians> - new decking material (composite or treated lumber)> - new fasteners> - disposal of waste material (old decking and fasteners for 91 balconies)> > All work will be performed from the exterior of the building, thus no > individual unit access is required. The contractors will use lifts, > scaffolding, and swing stages to perform all the work. The only > requirement of the home owner is to clear their balcony of all items prior > > to the start of the project. Because our building is considered a high > rise by the city of Chicago, we are required to follow all t
he necessary > procedures dictated to us by the city.> > The $900 price tag is at the high end of the estimates we received. We > (the board) would much rather advertise a higher price and then deliver > the project under budget if possible. This price is for home owners to > budget accordingly for the 2008 decking replacement project. The final > price will be delivered once the contractor has been selected and the > proposal has been approved. > > Please keep in mind the balcony can be considered a very nice amenity. Not > > everyone in the city of Chicago has the luxury of an outside space > attached to their unit. (Personally, I consider this a "frill".)> > Best regards,> - Chris> > > > > Mary Deskovich > Sent by: vanguard-talk-bounce@venus.soci.niu.edu> 01/11/2008 03:17 PM> Please respond to> vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu> > > To> vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu> cc> > Subject> Re: Rear swing gate> > > > > > > On New Years Day, I had to move my son's car out of the visitor's spots > (he had left it
there from the night before and I didn't want to violate > the 24-hour rule). I had to stop someone passing by on the street to hold > the key in the "open" position in order to keep the gate open long enough. > > I attributed it to the weather, but evidently it's more than that.> > On another subject-I just recieved the multipage document "2007 > Accomplishments and 2008 Activities". First: Why was it mailed when I > have asked that communications from 1P be e-mailed to me, saving the > postage? Second: Is anyone else shocked at the $900 price being quoted > for the deck replacement? By my calculations, my deck uses 130 linear > feet of decking. This means it is costing me almost $7/foot for the deck. > That seems like an awfully high price for what I would figure a normal > deck would cost. > > Mary> > Jim Thomas wrote:> > This afternoon, there was a problem with the rear swing gate. It would> open, and then immediately shut. So, be careful if you drive through.> I've contacted 1P about it.> > Jim> > ~~~~~
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