Subject: RE: REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST
From: Debra Aaron (daaron7706@msn.com)
Date: Sun Jul 08 2007 - 13:07:43 CDT
I made a simple observation about email notifications and expressed my
viewpoint and it's led to all of this! You are hung up on the parking
issue.
I am really pissed off now. I have had enough of the insulting emails.
Jim, you've always seemed like a likeable guy in person but you don't come
across that way on email.
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THIS ISSUE ABOUT THE PARKING. YOU ARE TOTALLY
MISSING MY POINT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND TO INSINUATE OR EVEN WRITE THAT I
HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH MOVING SOMETHING TO PARK IN THE GUEST SPOT. I AM
FUMING.
i don't have a car! My husband has a car and he parks it in our spot. I
occassionaly have had to run home from work with my company car and because
of lack of parking in the area during the day I've parked in a guest spot
and run up stairs and back down within a few minutes. I've done that twic
and it hasn't been recently, but I'll do it again if I need to. (Ed, you
shud know that cause you let your cleaning lady park in the handicap spot.)
The current board has my sympathy, I do know more than most what it's like
to be on the board.
For the most part you've been doing an ok job but I do think you all have
let a little "power" go to your heads. You are very good at getting people
riled up also. As an owner, I expressed an opinion and I've gotten
bombarded with insulting emails.
I've had enough. Don't bother to repond to this email. I'm not going to
read anymore. I don't know what my user name or password is to our
website... so PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. I don't want to receive one
more email!
Deb
>From: Jim Thomas <jthomas@sun.soci.niu.edu>
>Reply-To: vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu
>To: vanguard-talk@venus.soci.niu.edu
>Subject: RE: Vanguard Lofts - Visitor Parking - Remove ALL Vehicles by Noon
>Today! (7/6/2007)
>Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:52:19 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>Sorry this is long, but the distortions and inaccuracies below can't
>go without correction:
>
> > Ouch! (previous boards preferring silence?... don't think you can speak
>of
> > their preference if you weren't a board member at the time).
>
>I'll let others with a sense of irony reflect on the absurdity of the
>above that makes the point. (hint: If only board members know what
>board members think, that suggests that what they think is closed
>to outsiders). Irony aside, Debra has a rather short memory. She seems to
>have forgotten how the lack of communication between the original board
>and residents created some hostility in those early years. She also
>seems to have forgotten how one board member argued vehemently against
>board members communicating with residents. I can likely even dig up
>an email from him arguing the point.
>
> > I have no problem with receiving email
> > notifications... just not last minute...on a regular basis. The email
>below
> > was sent out to "All" at 9 something a.m. on 7/6 to ask people to move a
> > vehicle by Noon of that same day.
>
>Debra seems to miss a few points.
>The first email alerting residents that the guests spots would be closed
>went out Weds, July 4. On Friday morning, there were no cars in the
>visitors spaces. No-parking indicators were put up. Somebody removed the
>no-parking indicators and parked in a guest spot anyway.
>
>The note Debra cites above as "last minute" was a note sent Friday morning
>in an urgent attempt to find the owners of cars who parked in the guest
>spots despite no-parking indicators being placed in those spots. The
>reason it was sent on Friday is because that's when somebody parked
>there. The note obviously couldn't have been sent PRIOR to the
>people parking there, now, could it?
>
> > I don't have time and can't check personal email at work. I
> > wouldn't have time to check it once let alone every three hours to see
> > if I received an email from the Vanguard Board. I guess that just
> > leaves me uninformed, that's not always a bad thing.
>
>If Debra is acknowledging that she was the one who removed the no-parking
>indicators and parked in the guest spot, then her embarrassment is
>understandable. If she is not, then it's not clear what her concern is.
>
>From the top:
>1) The guest parking spaces were closed for about 24 hours. This was
>announced announced on the listserv on Weds.
>
>2) No cars were in those spots Friday morning when no-parking indicators
>were put in place in the three guest spots
>
>3) somebody removed the no-parking indicators after they were in place
>and parked there anybody.
>
>4) A note was sent to the e-list to try to get the cars moved so gravel
>could be dumped there. Simultaneously, Joe Lara tried to track down
>the owners on-site. He did.
>
>What's the problem?
>
>Jim / 501
>
>
>
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